19971212




Articles on 12th December, 1997.

Today's Articles: 19.


Articles Numbers: (19971212_01-19)





Article 1:

KMB Faretable.


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Thu Dec 11 14:01, 1997 said:


According to KMB's faretable in its homepage, KMB ceased to operate the following cross harbour tunnel routes.


102, 103, 104, 105A, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, and 115.


Obviously, this should be a joke, :) right?


Can someone call KMB to amend the problem?





100 Wong


Article 2:

恐怖 ??


東邪 (GK9112) (mingyin@hkstar.com) at Thu Dec 11 21:18, 1997 said:


Spike Wu.(2001) (abspike@school.net.hk) said:


> 正話新聞透視影左亞Billy Ho出黎,連同佢既綱頁.ABS講談社


> 差D爆MON咁滯!咁ARM影埋果架火燒LV10出黎.


> 講開巳呢架LV10,唔知中記有冇張佢番新呢?唸唸o下,佢燒左都有城


> 年LO!(我唸都冇乜可能!)


>


> Spike Wu.(2001)





- Spike兄, 點解你會''恐怖''二字黎形容 ??





東邪 ....


Article 2: (Request 1)

佢(Billy Ho)係我日日對住既同學,俾你你會唔會話恐怖呢?


仲要zoom埋佢塊面度,哇!簡直難頂!!!


呢次簡直賣晒廣告啦!佢睇完唔知幾high.....


話時話,呢個可能係第一個巴士綱頁上電視!





Spike Wu.(2001)


Article 2: (Request 2)

果一刻我係做緊功課, 但係電視就開住, 點知講講下講左去網頁, 仲聽到


巴士兩個字添! 哇, 即刻掉低支筆仆去睇, 見到有個中學生, 又影下


個 mon 咁....仲以為影住 BUStop 添....





原來入面果個係卿姐呀...失敬失敬, 咁係左邊定右邊果個呢?





仲有呢, 今次都算係宣傳左香港係有巴士網頁呢樣東東架!


Article 2: (Request 3)

可否詳細告訴在下剛才新聞透視係講緊巴士邊忽呢?





再想問有冇人錄o左呢集新聞邊視呢?





如是, 可否借來一看呀?


Thank you :)





新聞透視做緊時仲未返家的


Peter上


Article 2: (Request 4)

其實同巴士無關o既, 今集係講董特首主張日後要用高科技教育, 例如電腦,


及互聯網絡等等....跟住記者就搭單講下而家中學生從接觸電腦到上網, 到編寫


自己o既網頁....咁就唔知點解一個唔好彩又咁o岩又得咁橋訪問到㊣一㊣我地


板友卿姐個網頁, 鏡頭咪影埋去個 mon 度咁囉!


Article 2: (Request 5)

冇呀,又咁o岩得咁q我讀保良局胡x中學,又咁o岩我係Library o既


大粒佬,又咁o岩Library又有兩部電腦(133渣,17吋mon睇死人:p)


仲有:我果日飯都未食就講o左半個鐘,


我冇帶眼鏡


果日個攝影隊叫我介紹網頁先係咁講o左成個字,前後用o左35分鐘


Article 3:

親中派也要講理由+澄清


C.K. Chow 傑仔 (chowack@netvigator.com) at Thu Dec 11 21:14, 1997 said:


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


> Thomas Kwong (twlkwong@netvigator.com) said:


> > I think that KMB is a very bad company, I think CMB is the


> > best, sure their buses are old, so what?


>


> 唔同人有唔同見解, 亦有唔同口味, 你鍾意中記 D 車舊, 我鍾意九記 D 車新,


> 甚至可以有人鍾意坐坡柴, 鍾意跪車....


>


> > I think CMB deserve some respect from people.


> > If you agree with me, please respond, lets see how many


> > agree.


>


> 唔贊成你就唔可以貼文回覆? 不過呢度都有好多親中派, 唔怕冇人和應你.








由於我經己搭了中巴十幾年, 對中巴當然起了一些感情......





雖然我亦是親中派, 但是我覺得大家必雖講理由.


你話九巴最衰, 中巴最好, o甘你又有乜理據呢?





其實中、九、城、嶼、龍運五巴均有長處及短處.


身為一個巴士迷, 知道的比一般市民多, 我們應該深入地分釋


各公司於各方面的表現. 不應一口咬定邊間公司最衰, 邊間公司最好!





( 例於中記車齡較其它公司高, 你話係唔係好呢? )





以上是一個較喜歡中巴的巴士迷的澄清. 並希望其它人不要當親中派


是一班 '盲不講理, 不講理由, 只盲目愛公司的人'!


身為一個想巴士公司好的人, 不應盲目愛該間公司, 應全面地分釋.


若有不善之處, 投訴及意見應提出, 不應報喜不報憂!








C.K. Chow 傑仔


Article 3: (Request 1)

我不會對你的言論表示贊成或反對...





但你要小心,因為此等個人意見會被人視為罵戰之開始.





如果你真的認為九巴is very bad,中巴is the best,請提出論據,只


要言之成理,大家是會專重你的意見,反之,如果你只是說出一個立場


而不加解釋,很易會令人誤會.....





請小心發表你的言論....





城巴香港仔代表


Alex Chan


Article 3: (Request 2)

eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) said:


> 唔贊成你就唔可以貼文回覆?





係囉係囉. fO.o...





>不過呢度都有好多親中派, 唔怕冇人和應你.





傻啦! 亞Eddie哥你明知呢度D老親中唔係咁盲目崇拜o既啦! 咁容易俾人


撩到o野咩? 真幽默o既o者你. :)





其實各間巴士公司都有佢做得好o既地方, 係好值得公司之間互相借鑒


o既, 所以


盲目吹捧或者貶低某公司都係冇乜意義o既, 係咪?





好多謝本題目作者(新板友? :) )提供o左一個寶貴o既機會, 等本板o既


中巴支持者可以澄清一下坊間o既一D誤解. :)








Mike NG(LF126)


(BL 50 -- DC2270)


Article 3: (Request 3)

Mike NG(LF126) (ngmike@hkstar.com) said:


> 傻啦! 亞Eddie哥你明知呢度D老親中唔係咁盲目崇拜o既啦! 咁容易俾人


> 撩到o野咩? 真幽默o既o者你. :)


> 好多謝本題目作者(新板友? :) )提供o左一個寶貴o既機會, 等本板o既


> 中巴支持者可以澄清一下坊間o既一D誤解. :)





哈哈, 其實廣大 '親中派' 都係理智同以事論事o既,


只不過有 '一少撮' 人 (其實親乜派都有) 思想不成


熟, 係要發表盲目親中言論o者. 好似一班好乖o既學


生, 只要有一兩個搗蛋o既同學, 成班就會俾人覺得


係曳曳架啦.





只要我見到呢o的幼稚言論, 無論佢親中九城嶼... 迷,


我都唔會放過佢, 嘿嘿!





--


DX 2437!


Article 3: (Request 4)

How bad is KMB?


How good is CMB?


Please elaborate. Thanks!





--


DX 2437!


Article 3: (Request 5)

People will ignore your message since no reason for that. Nonsense.





k


Article 3: (Request 6)

儘管我親中,但也不可以贊同你的觀點。九巴如何'very bad'呢?


我都唔夠膽話中巴係'the best'喎。





沒有論據,難以服眾......


Article 3: (Request 7)

作為巴士迷,對一間巴士公司喜愛或厭惡,


乃人之常情;但為喜愛一間巴士公司,而去


將其他公司踩到有0甘衰得0甘衰,那樣值得


嗎?正如一些歌手的歌迷為擁護自己崇拜偶


像,而不惜犧牲或者將其他人擁護的另一歌


手批評得一文不值,那又有何用呢?





我自己亦是喜愛中巴的一群,但並沒有話去特


別厭惡其他巴士公司;若為喜愛一巴士公司,


而去將其他巴士公司批評得一文不值,那又有


何用呢?


Article 4:

Re: Retain, Cancel, Re-route or others:


100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) at Fri Dec 12 09:39, 1997 said:


Eric Choi (ericchoi@aicom.com) said:


> I think those bus routes have problems on low passengers


> demand, How can we do ? retain it, cancel it, reroute it,


> change to all A-C services or integrate with others.


>


I longed for A/C service on 2C since the introduction of AT's back then. I think AT's are perfect for this route. No doubt AM's are good alternatives for this route. (at least I would use this route if A/C service is available)


>


> CTB: Route 1.


> Do route 3B, 41A, 47A have more passengers after CTB


> have tookover them from CMB?





There still should be good enough demand for Rt.1, though allocating 12M buses is a bit wasteful.


>


> Cross harbour route: Route 110.


> How about route 671 and 917?


>


I'll be the first to reconsider to take Rt.110 if all A/C service is available.





I think I've mentioned before, the main problem for 917 is the Queen's Road East section does not have sufficient passenger demand.


Meanwhile, 914 would be much better off if all A/C service is available. (at least I'll be the first one to reconsider the route)


Maybe with all A/C 914, 917 doesn't really need to exist anymore. (though routings should retain that of 917, i.e. Peddar St./Connaught Rd. C.)





100 Wong (the person who hasn't been on a non-A/C bus for the past 3 years!)


Article 4: (Request 1)

Hey, does it mean that you don't have to take a non air-cond


bus in the States? All Air-cond there? No heat?


Article 5:

Re: 89D,3AD??


eddie lam (bustop@glink.net.hk) at Fri Dec 12 10:51, 1997 said:


Spike Wu.(2001) (abspike@school.net.hk) said:


> 究竟89D,有幾何行3AD GA?


> 好似城日都唔見有一部wall!





你試下下晝六點企嚮觀塘道以前九記廠個巴士站企半個鐘, 應該有收穫.


Article 6:

Re: International bus news:


Stephen Kwan (hhkwan@sympatico.ca) at Fri Dec 12 05:39, 1997 said:


Eric Choi (ericchoi@aicom.com) said:


> Refer to Singtao Daily (Dec 10, BC edition) and Fairchild Radio (AM 1470), it said:


>


> Vancouver and Richmond City Council agreed to introduce a rapid bus service which runs between Vancouver City


> Centre and Richmond City Centre. ( Richmond is a city which about 15km south of Vancouver City Centre,


> about 40% of resident are Chinese).


>


> The project will cost about C$40 millions.C$20 millions on buiding the designed bus stops, installing the ticket machines,


> improving the road system between the two cities and introducing the passenger information boards. And the other


> C$2 millions will be used on buying the new buses. Those buses have some special features:


>


> 1. Super low-floor, easy for baby cages to get on/off the bus.


>


> 2. Wheelchair accessible.


>


> 3. A special bottom which allow the bus driver to control the traffic lights.


>


> If the light is red, the light will change to green in a short period by


> the driver press the buttom on the bus.


>


> If the light is green, the light will not change to red until the bus pass


> the intersection by the driver press the buttom.


>


> The journey time between Vancouver and Richmond is about 45 minutes by the


> normal buses. The rapid buses can finish the whole journey in 30 minutes.


> Also, the service frequncy of rapid bus services is 2-3 mins (Peak hours),


> 5-6 mins (daytime off-peak hours) and 10 mins (at night).


>


> The rapid bus service will run in spring 1999. Due to the huge demand of


> the buses in North America.


>


> Do you have interest to try the new rapid bus?





For the situation that you have in British Columbia, it may


not be successful. When you take a look on the national


capital, Ottawa's case. They have a Transitway system which


allows buses runs on its road. That means buses have their


own road, just like the metro system in Hong Kong. However,


the system are now found unsatisfactory due to the slow buses


movement during peak hours and residents are unwilling to


wait a bus in somehow like -1o degree Celcius with snowing.


Also, if you want to talk about problems in Canadian buses,


you may go to discuss their.


Thanks!


Article 7:

...


BAe TRIDENT (snecma@technologist.com) at Thu Dec 11 23:32, 1997 said:


Ambrose (ambrosey@netvigator.com) said:


> 根据【一周刊】170頁【 香港未來一百八十日】報導,城巴


> 行走5B和170號路線巴士﹐已經首先安裝上衛星追蹝


> 系統,并且乘客可以在車內看見交通擠塞報告`巴士位置和


> 到站時間等等資料!而机場線巴士也將會安裝這系統!





唔好意思,請ambrose兄不要打打o下打dBIG5o既簡體字,好難睇架.





P.S.要打唔該打全篇,同埋打GB,多謝合作!





BAe TRIDENT HS121(B-2218)


Article 7: (Request 1)

會唔會係指170線既574(好似?)裝嚮上層近車鐘位置,下層坐位近樓梯 既走馬燈板.


因為見已經裝左好耐 , 但唔知用黎做什麼 ?


Article 7: (Request 2)

上期巴士之訊都有講過#537的衛星導航系統啦.


全線5B已裝上??城巴連八達通機都未裝哂啦,


我就唔信5B同 170的巴士已裝上


Article 7: (Request 3)

以下是節錄自×週刊網上版關於黃巴士導航系統內容,刊於網。








CambieNo.4 Rd.


Article 8:

Re: 失驚無神有問題(R.1)


Steve (stevepang@hknet.com) at Thu Dec 11 23:29, 1997 said:


風間火月 (adagatha@netvigator.com) said:


> 1)AV112係邊個廠?行邊條線?係咪大後備?


> 2)AL118重裝個AV殼,但係個殼係比日本電裝改良版冷氣機,


> 。甘AL118係咪連冷氣機都轉埋?


> 3)城記東涌廠係邊?點去?


>


> Thank You!


> AS3/AV112 風間火月





Ans: 3. 個廠就在市中心總站旁,行過去都得.


Article 8: (Request 1)

AV112 係荔廠GA MA!





Spike Wu.(2001)


Article 9:

城巴西隧村巴 903R 及 925R 變動


Eric Lo (ericnet@hkstar.com) at Thu Dec 11 21:53, 1997 said:


由十二月十五日起, 城巴嘉湖山莊村巴 903R 及 925R (經西隧)


將有以下更改:





903R--


改為單程由嘉湖山莊往灣仔, 不設回程服務.


服務時間更改為:


翠湖居開: 星期一至六 0700, 0710, 0730 (假日暫停服務)


樂湖居開: 星期一至六 0710, 0720, 0740


假日 0800, 0900, 1000





925R--


往香港方向加停樂湖居, 並改以銅鑼灣百德新街為終站.


回程改為每日服務, 並加停嘉湖山莊樂湖居及翠湖居.


服務時間更改為:


美湖居開: 星期一至六 0630, 0650 (假日暫停服務)


樂湖居開: 星期一至六 0640, 0700 (假日暫停服務)


灣仔告士打道開: 星期一至五 1745, 1815, 1845


星期六, 日及假日 1900, 2000





敬請留意.





西隧及新機場司司長


ERIC LO





P. S. 今次 903R 及 925R 縮減服務, 不知是否受到城巴專利線


969 的打擊?


Article 9: (Request 1)

其實咁都好正路o既!可以更加善用資源嘛!因為食鬼公司o既財政


狀況緊張(用o左大部份o既資源買新車嘛!),故此要從日常開支方


面謹慎o的呀!況且,村巴o既設立原本目的係輔助專利巴士o架!既


然有969咯,村巴咪可以減班次咯!


Article 10:

廣告-加相通告


BX2540 (plaxton@chevalier.net) at Thu Dec 11 22:00, 1997 said:


30x巴士網頁之雞車相簿已經加了G319 & G504,而trident相簿亦已加相


2100相簿亦已開幕


歡迎參觀


Article 11:

要Trident的資料


馬文浚 (n7136579@netvigator.com) at Thu Dec 11 22:40, 1997 said:


Gakei! (95261675d@polyu.edu.hk) said:


> 馬文浚(n7136579@netvigator.com) said:


> > 請問可否給我一些關於2100,2101,2200,2500及ATR1(Trident)的資料


> > ?不勝感激.


>


> 你要什麼資料呀?





我要一些關於引擎,坐位,低地台,外殼等等的簡單資料


Article 11: (Request 1)

引擎: Cummins M11 engine, 300hp & 10.8-litre (後置及縱置)





車身: Alexander ALX500





總數: (九巴+城巴, 不計車身款式) 250 部





來源: Transport Engineer (Nov 1997)








C.K. Chow 傑仔


Article 11: (Request 2)

今日全龍運Trident(HM 6990),部車D位都分兩種色,深橙和淺橙,


波箱應是ZF 4?????,該車最高可達110 km/h(好快...真o係好快).





Steve


Article 12:

每日一跪(十二月十一日)


Wong Kai Yeung, 671 (yeung@powernethk.com) at Thu Dec 11 21:04, 1997 said:


今日有架城巴(#806,GH154)唔知何時何地跪低o左,攪到勞煩呀婦女節婆婆(前#38,拖車)拖入鴨廠(Ap Lei Chau)。





671


Article 13:

飛機竺


飛機竺 (chuk@netvigator.com) at Thu Dec 11 20:24, 1997 said:


E31 ON THE NET 已更新了


歡迎參觀





(特別THANK YOU家棋TO LET ME USE HIS PHOTO)





http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/8032/index.htm














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Article 14:

又係【網頁廣告】,已完成上傳工程...


T.P.T. (cmb970@technologist.com) at Thu Dec 11 18:59, 1997 said:


小弟之網頁已完成上傳相片工程,歡迎參觀!





今次加相有:


1) 城巴2100及2101相片共十張


2) 城巴2200相片共五張


3) 城巴2500相片共六張


4) 九巴ATR1相片共二張


---------------------------


      Total:23張





應該大多數o既相都出過街o架喇!不過今次將所有相炒埋一蹀o者.





China City Bus Page











各位,知今次o既【網頁廣告】有冇問題呢?








T.P.T.


Article 15:

Re: 69X's Terminus will be retained


Walter Kwong (walter@school.net.hk) at Thu Dec 11 19:40, 1997 said:


Benjamin (patben@netvigator.com) said:


>


>


> The Yuen Long District board members had successfully


> prevent KMB to move the terminus of 69X from Tin Shui


> to Tin Shui Wai Town Centre, therefore KMB decided


> the route of 69X in 1998 will be: Tin Shui ---->


> Jordon Road Ferry, and the original route of 269B,


> i.e. Tin Shui ----> Hung Hum Ferry will be


> changed to Tin Shui Wai Town Centre ---->


> Hung Hum Ferry


>


> p.s. the information is receive from the pamphlet of our


> district board member





1998年仲有冇佐碼呢?


會唔會改左去機鐵九龍站?





之前有板友話九記cut 短69X去佐碼


其實係唔係會直落到尖沙咀先由廣東道上番佐碼呢?


Article 15: (Request 1)

Walter Kwong (walter@school.net.hk) said:


> 1998年仲有冇佐碼呢?





而家佐碼正興建一個新離總站的出路,


我諗點都會用多一兩年?





--


DX 2437!


Article 15: (Request 2)

其實大欖隧道轉車站開放後,


九記可以咁做


269 去 紅磡 (經尖沙咀/佐敦道)


68X 去 九龍機鐵站 (經佐敦道/旺角/櫻桃街)


69X 去 旺角火車站 (經旺角/長沙灣道)


69M 去 美孚 (經荔景/葵涌/荃灣)


64M 去 青衣機鐵站 (經沙咀道/荃灣)


68M 去 荃灣地鐵站





而屯門無左 69X,


67X 應延長至 九龍車站





小愚見


STANLEY YUNG


Article 16:

Re: 城巴贊助HKU X'mas Ball


安迪安 (h9703053@hkusua.hku.hk) at Fri Dec 12 10:33, 1997 said:


John (Citybus 12M) (h9402461@hkusua.hku.hk) said:


>


> 今日在HKU 門口見到李x雄堂的X'mas Ball廣告,贊助商竟是


> 城巴


>


> 唔知有冇巴士模型送???


>


> 除城巴外,地鐵都有份贊助!





仲有趙學而做嘉賓.


Article 17:

請勿灌水,多謝合作.


SM (so@mailcity.com) at Thu Dec 11 22:34, 1997 said:





Eric Lo (ericnet@hkstar.com) said:


> 100 Wong (wongjsy@sfsu.edu) said:


> > With the cancellation of X11, is Rt.369 the longest bus route in Hong Kong?


> >


> > 100 Wong


>


> YES


>


> ERIC





請勿灌水,多謝合作.


SM


Article 18:

超級無敵有新野


獎門人 (xyz@ipoline.com) at Fri Dec 12 13:01, 1997 said:


各位對Northern Counties Palatine2車身有興趣既朋友要留意。


'狗仔'模型(Corgi)係一九九八年會推出此模型。(好有可能有Capital


Citybus架)


Article 19:

今日所見【十二月十二日】


S3BL (tin@school.net.hk) at Fri Dec 12 13:55, 1997 said:


1. HM 2649 (AV 334) on 81M